Choking on Their Chaff

Choking on Their Chaff
This is not the first time I have posted on this blog, thoughts concerning the proper ground on which to build the church. See: “Getting New Life Into a Polluted Woman.

The Stronghold of David was built on the Threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite, 2 Samuel 24:16-25 “When the angel stretched out his hand to destroy Jerusalem, the Lord relented concerning the disaster and said to the angel who was afflicting the people, ‘Enough! Withdraw your hand.’ The angel of the Lord was then at the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite.

When David saw the angel who was striking down the people, he said to the Lord, ‘I have sinned; I, the shepherdhave done wrong. These are but sheep. What have they done? Let your hand fall on me and my family.’

On that day Gad went to David and said to him, ‘Go up and build an altar to the Lord on the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite.’  So David went up, as the Lord had commanded through Gad.  When Araunah looked and saw the king and his officials coming toward him, he went out and bowed down before the king with his face to the ground. Araunah said, ‘Why has my lord the king come to his servant?’ ‘To buy your threshing floor,’ David answered, ‘so I can build an altar to the Lord, that the plague on the people may be stopped.’

Araunah said to David, ‘Let my lord the king take whatever he wishes and offer it up. Here are oxen for the burnt offering, and here are threshing sledges and ox yokes for the wood. Your Majesty, Araunahgives all this to the king.’ Araunah also said to him, ‘May the Lord your God accept you.’

But the king replied to Araunah, ‘No, I insist on paying you for it. I will not sacrifice to the Lord my God burnt offerings that cost me nothing.’

So David bought the threshing floor and the oxen and paid fifty shekelsof silver for them.  David built an altar to the Lord there and sacrificed burnt offerings and fellowship offerings. Then the Lord answered his prayer in behalf of the land, and the plague on Israel was stopped.”

See also 1 Chronicles 21:14-30.

2 Chronicles 3:1 – “Then Solomon began to build the temple of the LORD in Jerusalem on Mount Moriah, where the LORD had appeared to his father David. It was on the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite, the place provided by David.”

The threshing floor of the Old Testament is a shadow or type of the New Testament threshing floor, perhaps pictured best in 1st Corinthians 14, but also pictured in Ephesians 4:14:16 – “Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. 15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. 16 From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.”

A threshing floor is a place where the wheat is separated from the chaff. The way it works is, the farmers or laborers bring the wheat together with the chaff to the threshing floor where it is thrown up in the air, and as the heavier grain falls back on the floor the lighter chaff is blown away by the wind. This is what the Christ centered conversation of the saints accomplishes when we come together as the church. The key phrase here is “Christ centered conversation,” as distinct from man centered or pulpit-centered lectures aimed at the saints.

It is the Christ centered conversation of the Saints that results in they’re being built up together into the head. A lecture is not a conversation. God builds His house on a conversational threshing floor, not in a lecture hall.

Problem is what has been passing for leadership, whether it be pastor, or the rest of the “fivefold,” they can’t take up an offering for a conversation. In short the present system is sorely compromised by the agenda of religious merchants whatever they might be calling themselves.

The result is that the saints continue to be choked to death on “leadership” chaff!

Love!

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4th John

4th John

This has to do with Church gone bad.

If we read 3rd John, we quickly discover that there was another letter, apparently with the same geographic address, but confiscated by what appears to be false, bad or self serving leadership, in a word, “redundant.”

Several things have my attention in this present post.  The first is that, if all Scripture is “God breathed,” 2 Timothy 3:16 –  “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,” and I believe it is.

(I need to quickly add that this does not mean that everything that is written down is the way God wanted things to “go down.” It simply means that God wanted us to know what was said and done so that we could learn from what went right as well as what went wrong. What was said that was from Him, and what was said that was not from Him.)

In the case of “3rd John,” This means that while John’s previous letter to the church was not received by the church, John, in this subsequent letter still referred to his previous letter as being written to “the church.” I take this to mean that it was still a church, as far as God was concerned even though Diotrephes was intercepting the mail.

By now, rogue leadership has taken things much further. Things have gone so far as to no longer reflect what God called church even here in 3rd John. For this reason I have for many years now made a distinction between what God calls church, and what is calling itself “church.” What is calling itself “church” is “rogue”: Merriam-Webster On Line Dictionary:

1: vagrant, tramp
2: a dishonest or worthless person : scoundrel
3: a mischievous person : scamp
4: a horse inclined to shirk or misbehave
5: an individual exhibiting a chance and usually inferior biological variation

The Point I want to make here is that eventually the fruit of rogue leadership is rogue “church.” Even by the time that the New Testament Writings were coming to a close Rogue leadership came in, at least 5 flavors. The menu can be found in Ephesians 4.

By the way, Diotrephes got away with 3rd John.

Love!

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The Gospel That Fixes Everything Wrong With Us


The Gospel of sin removal is nice, but it can’t hold a candle to the Gospel of heavenly compatible intimacy with God and each other! The real thing is not about self-consciousness. It is about other-consciousness – the meekness of Jesus, not the meekness of Moses. Where relationship is concerned, it is not about wounded co-dependency – it’s about healed ecstasy!

Mary did indeed choose the better part. :-)

Love!

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