Offenses

It may be that we become offendable at the point where our own will is in conflict with that of the Father. Certainly false doctrine would put us in that place.

Having said that, and admitting that I only know in part, I have a growing perception that the streams which we have come from have compartmentalized our understanding of the Church. This is to say, that rather than seeing the word pictures of the church as reflecting the many facets of its essential unity, the word pictures have been taken to reflect various parts instead–distinguishing them from one another. Now, I readily admit that your stream may have more light on the Scripture than I presently possess, but for now my perception is that we have divided Christ by this understanding.

For me, Paul’s rhetorical question, “Is Christ divided?” says it all.  No!  Therefore, I am having a difficult time receiving doctrines concerning; “The Bride of Christ” as a distinct group from “Body of Christ,” for instance.  There are others who have, and continue to do the same thing–creating various classes of Christians or believers like the “Manifest sons of God,” “Joel’s Army,” “The friends of the Bride Groom,” etc.

Some have it all broken down by “national” types in their various denominations and movements: Assyria represents this, and Egypt represents that, etc.  A problem I have with all of this is that it seems to legitimize division, but more than that, validates institutionalism. In fact, for all the complaints against institutionalism out there, there seems be an even greater vested interest in “compartmentalized doctrine,” making it very difficult to accept that institutionalism itself is anti-christ on its own demerit.

Now, I am very grateful for your comments, particularly at this point and time, because we’re coming down to all of this in connection with the end of things.

Today we have sorcerers with big ministries who are not unlike Simon the Sorcerer who gave the early church so much trouble.

My problem with these “big ministries” is they are institutional – the work of man’s hands. Furthermore, when they claim to be prophetic in origin and function, I have a particularly difficult time with that, because Christ came to destroy the work of man’s hands, not validate it.  John the Baptist was not “REPENTANCE INC.”

Whether or not they are practicing “sorcery” is, for me, a secondary issue.  The real problem is they are validating the incorporation and division of the Body of Christ, doing so in the Name of The Lord, and claiming to be acting on direct revelation.  Should their claims be true, then my salvation is in serious question.

If God’s people are going to be called out of Babylon, they must have a clearer understanding–not only what they’ve been called out from, but also what they’ve been called unto. As it is, the saints seem to be continually moving from one Babylon to another, from one blind guide to the next, and the only things that change are the male egos being gratified. And currently, even female egos are beginning to get in on the act.

I confess again, I may not know the Father’s timing, but I believe this has gone on long enough. My heart’s desire is for the city of God’s making, not the cities of man’s doing.

Perhaps I should make a further confession. Although you would never guess it from my academic grades, I’ve been accused of being an intellectual. There would have be more than two or three witnesses for me to take these accusation seriously. Jesus promised to build His Church on revelation, which comes down from the Father, not on our ability to figure things out.

There are things that I hold dear which I know have come to me as revelation from the Father. There are other things that I hold dear, which may have come to me because I figured them out. I believe this may be the curse of those who are intellectually rich. They often have a more difficult time than most in discerning the difference between what is theirs by revelation, and what is theirs by human wisdom. I believe this is a great difficulty for those who function in the “prophetic” realm.  Truth is, we may only prophesy in part, but we sure talk a lot, and when real prophecy gets mixed with a lot of talk, there is bound to be error in the mix. When the error is a product of those who are “intellectually powerful,” the mix can be especially compelling, and attract a large following.

The continuing debate between “Christian intellectuals” may turn out to be more the fruit of “angels of light,” than an honest wrestling with the angels of God. Whatever the intent, the fruit is tearing the Body of Christ apart.  Too often, the reason appears to be the same ego gratification that caused Lucifer to run off with a third of the angels.

In my view, any prophecy or movement which builds a wall around a “part” and calls it the “whole,” does not come down from heaven, but comes up out of the earth. Enough!

  • By Jay Ferris, originally posted July 2012
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The Lust of the Flesh versus The Passion of The Christ


The fellowship, even the oneness that the Lord is after in and for us in this present age is rooted in His Passion, “The Passion of The Christ.”  “We Love because He first loved us.”

There is a passion of the flesh, which Paul tells us is about Christ and the Church, Ephesians 5:31, 32.  Paul begins what we know as Ephesians 5 with this, “But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people.” (Verse 3)   Sad to say, there is great confusion in this connection leading to moral failure on the one hand, and to repression and denial on the other.  In either case, what is missing is the kind of gender-neutral spiritual intimacy among us that Jesus prayed and died for.

We need to be clear about this intimacy.   We need to know how to discern the difference, if the world is ever going to see the passion in us that was manifest in Jesus.  This is the Passion that Jesus demonstrated on the cross, and prayed that we might share, not only with Him and His Father, but also with each other, as directed in and by His Spirit at work in us.  This is a passion so great that the closest thing to it is what I call the sexual parable.  It is pictured in being created male and female in its image, again, Ephesians 5: 31, 32.  This passion is also pictured in Song of Songs.  It is also pictured in the relationship between David and Jonathan, “I am distressed for thee, my brother Jonathan: very pleasant hast thou been unto me: thy love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women,”  2 Samuel 1:26.

In Christ this passion is not about the flesh, it is about the Spirit of Christ in us – The Spirit that puts us together and makes us one, not only with Him, but also with each other.  This is a passion so great that if we don’t get it right, there is bound to be moral failure among us just as there was at Corinth, where Paul was determined to address it early on.

The problem of moral failure is not solved by turning the passion of Christ into passionless doctrinal love.  It is solved by discerning the difference between the lust of the flesh and the passion of the Christ in and among us who believe.  We must let the lust of the flesh be contained within the marriage of the flesh, “the two shall become one flesh…” Ephesians 5:31, so that the Passion of The Christ can be expressed in our fellowship with one another without regard to gender, and that without moral failure.

Love!

  • By Jay Ferris, originally published July 2025
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Addendum to Flunked the Final

 

Addendum to last week’s post: Flunked the Final

No amount of high class culture, not even with advanced degrees from Harvard, Oxford, or Fuller Theological Seminary is any substitute for a life lived in The Spirit.  Flesh is flesh, no matter what degrees it might have or station in life it may have attained.

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