“… But speaking the truth in love… Not forsaking the… conversation, … as the manner of some is, we are drawn heavenward into Him Who is the Head, even Christ Jesus…”

As I thought more about this over the past few days at an “Apostolic” conference, it occurred to me, (I shared this in my presentation to the conference) that the church is a conversation.

So we could say of the “five fold” ministry that “God gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastor/ teachers to…” lecture the saints until the saints begin to have a conversation with one another.

For this to happen, however, the “five fold” has to learn to, and be willing to stop dominating the assembled time of the saints with their incessant lecturing. There’s nothing passionate going on in those who are constantly being lectured.

Love!